Multi-Scale Anti-Correlated Neural States Dominate Naturalistic Whole-Brain Activity
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This manuscript presents a novel investigation of organizational principles governing brain activity at both global and local scales during naturalistic viewing paradigms, an important advance for theoretical neuroscience, functional neuroimaging, and neurology. The authors demonstrate that brain activity during naturalistic viewing is dominated by two anti-correlated states that toggle between each other with a third transitional state mediating between them. The evidence supporting this finding is compelling, with the successful replication across three independent datasets (StudyForrest, NarrattenTion, and CamCAN) a particular strength.
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Abstract
The human brain’s response to naturalistic stimuli is characterized by complex spatiotemporal dynamics. Within these dynamics there is a transitioning structure between sets of anti-correlated neural states that is frequently observed but has not been systematically investigated across scales. In this paper, we use three different naturalistic fMRI datasets to quantify anti-correlation in global and local neural states during naturalistic viewing or listening and investigate their interdependence and their relationship to changes in the stimuli. We demonstrate that continuous naturalistic brain activity shows an anti-correlational structure that spans both global and local spatial scales, with regions in the dorsal attention network showing strong alignment between local and global state transitions. On the global scale, ongoing dynamics are dominated by two antagonistic states that correspond to Default Mode Network and Task Positive Network configurations, with a third transitional state mediating between them. On the local scale, we observe anti-correlated neural states that are associated with periods of relatively high and low brain activity. Across the brain, these are driven by subsets of voxels that are systematically anti-correlated with their area’s dominant activity pattern. This antagonism is related to stimulus changes, which tend to trigger a switch to the TPN state globally and to high activity states locally. On the local scale we also see a modality-specific pattern, with visual changes mostly driving transitions in visual cortical regions and auditory changes predominantly affecting auditory and language-related areas. The consistency of these findings across datasets with different stimulus types (audiovisual and purely auditory) indicates that anti-correlated neural states represent a domain-general organizational principle of brain function. We propose that anti-correlated dynamics functionally represent a convergent solution to the fundamental challenge of maintaining coherent internal representations while remaining responsive to meaningful changes in the environment.
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This manuscript presents a novel investigation of organizational principles governing brain activity at both global and local scales during naturalistic viewing paradigms, an important advance for theoretical neuroscience, functional neuroimaging, and neurology. The authors demonstrate that brain activity during naturalistic viewing is dominated by two anti-correlated states that toggle between each other with a third transitional state mediating between them. The evidence supporting this finding is compelling, with the successful replication across three independent datasets (StudyForrest, NarrattenTion, and CamCAN) a particular strength.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
In this work, the authors provide a comprehensive investigation of antagonistic dynamics across large-scale brain networks. They characterize this phenomenon at the global (regional dynamics) and local (multivariate patterns of voxels within regions) levels.
Furthermore, as opposed to studying these dynamics under resting-state or explicit task conditions, the authors make use of naturalistic narratives, both auditory and visual.
Perhaps most importantly, this work provides evidence that event boundaries in narratives drive sensory responses, which, in turn, predict anticorrelated activity in task-positive networks and the default mode network. These findings open up new questions regarding the interaction across perceptual systems and these higher-order dynamics in association networks.
This work is …
Reviewer #1 (Public review):
In this work, the authors provide a comprehensive investigation of antagonistic dynamics across large-scale brain networks. They characterize this phenomenon at the global (regional dynamics) and local (multivariate patterns of voxels within regions) levels.
Furthermore, as opposed to studying these dynamics under resting-state or explicit task conditions, the authors make use of naturalistic narratives, both auditory and visual.
Perhaps most importantly, this work provides evidence that event boundaries in narratives drive sensory responses, which, in turn, predict anticorrelated activity in task-positive networks and the default mode network. These findings open up new questions regarding the interaction across perceptual systems and these higher-order dynamics in association networks.
This work is methodologically solid and presents compelling findings that will surely invite new approaches and questions in this area.
Importantly, these data do not speak to the order or causal structure of these interactions. Time-resolved methods and direct causal interventions will be needed to understand how these interactions drive one another more precisely.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
This manuscript presents an impressive and novel investigation of organizational principles governing brain activity at both global and local scales during naturalistic viewing paradigms. The proposed multi-scale nested structure offers valuable new insights into functional brain states and their dynamics. Importantly, investigation of global brain states in the context of a naturalistic viewing context represents an important and timely contribution that addresses unresolved issues about global signals and anticorrelations in resting-state fMRI. This manuscript presents a novel investigation of organizational principles governing brain activity at both global and local scales during naturalistic viewing paradigms. The authors demonstrate that brain activity during naturalistic viewing is dominated by two …
Reviewer #2 (Public review):
This manuscript presents an impressive and novel investigation of organizational principles governing brain activity at both global and local scales during naturalistic viewing paradigms. The proposed multi-scale nested structure offers valuable new insights into functional brain states and their dynamics. Importantly, investigation of global brain states in the context of a naturalistic viewing context represents an important and timely contribution that addresses unresolved issues about global signals and anticorrelations in resting-state fMRI. This manuscript presents a novel investigation of organizational principles governing brain activity at both global and local scales during naturalistic viewing paradigms. The authors demonstrate that brain activity during naturalistic viewing is dominated by two anti-correlated states that toggle between each other with a third transitional state mediating between them. The successful replication across three independent datasets (StudyForrest, NarrattenTion, and CamCAN) is a particular strength. The successful replication across three independent datasets (StudyForrest, NarrattenTion, and CamCAN) is a particular strength, and I appreciate the authors' careful documentation of both convergent and divergent findings across these samples.
Overall, this manuscript makes important contributions to our understanding of large-scale brain organization during naturalistic cognition. The multi-scale framework and robust replication across datasets are notable strengths. Addressing the concerns raised below will substantially strengthen the impact and interpretability of this work.
(1) Network Definition and Specificity
(a) The authors adopt an overly broad characterization of the Default Mode Network (DMN). The statement that "areas most active in the default mode state... consist of the precuneus, angular gyrus, large parts of the superior and middle temporal cortex, large parts of the somatomotor areas, frontal operculi, insula, parts of the prefrontal cortex and limbic areas" includes regions typically assigned to other networks. The insula is canonically considered a core node of the Salience Network/Ventral Attention Network (VAN), not the DMN. Also, not clear which limbic areas? The DMN findings reported need to be critically reassessed in this context.
(b) Given the proposed role of state switching in your framework, a detailed analysis of salience network nodes (particularly insula and dorsal ACC) would be highly informative.
(c) While you report transition-related signals in the visual and auditory cortex, the involvement of insular and frontal control systems in state transitions remains unaddressed.
(d) My recommendation is to provide a more anatomically precise characterization of network involvement, particularly distinguishing DMN from salience/VAN regions, and analyze the specific role of salience network nodes in mediating state transitions.
(2) Distinguishing Top-Down from Stimulus-Driven Effects
(a) The finding that "the superior parietal lobe (SPL) and the frontal eye fields (FEF) show the greatest overlap between their local ROI state switches and the global state switches" raises an important question: To what extent are these effects driven by overt changes in visual gaze or attention shifts triggered by stimulus features versus internally-generated state changes?
(b) Similarly, the observation that DAN areas show the highest overlap with global state changes in StudyForrest and NarrattenTion, while VAN shows the highest overlap in CamCAN, lacks sufficient anatomical detail regarding which specific nodes are involved. This information would help clarify whether insular regions and other VAN components play distinct roles in state switching.
(c) It will be important to (i) discuss potential confounds from eye movements and stimulus-driven attention shifts; (ii) provide detailed anatomical breakdowns of network nodes involved in state transitions, particularly for VAN; (iii) if eye-tracking data or any other relevant stimulus-related data are available, include analyses examining relationships between these measures and state transitions.
(3) Physiological Interpretation of the "Down" State
The linkage between the "Down" state and the Default Mode State (DMS) is intriguing but requires deeper physiological grounding. Recent work by Epp et al. (Nature Neuroscience, 2025) demonstrates that decreased BOLD signal in DMN regions does not necessarily indicate reduced metabolic activity and can reflect neurovascular coupling modes with specific metabolic profiles. It would be useful to discuss whether your "Down" state might represent a particular neurovascular coupling mode with distinct metabolic demands rather than simply reduced neural activity. Alternatively, your analytical approach might be insensitive to or unconfounded by such neurovascular uncoupling. This discussion would substantially enrich the biological interpretation of the DMS versus TPS dual mechanism framework.
(4) Statistical Validation of Bimodality Detection
The method of selecting bimodal timepoints using the Dip test followed by sign-alignment is novel and creative. However, this filter-then-align procedure could potentially introduce circularity by imposing the anticorrelated structure the authors aim to detect. It would be important to implement validation analyses to confirm that anticorrelation is an intrinsic property rather than a methodological artifact. Approaches include leave-one-subject-out cross-validation, unsupervised dimensionality reduction (e.g., PCA) applied independently to verify the anticorrelated structure, and split-half reliability analysis. Such validation would significantly strengthen the statistical foundation of findings.
(5) Quantifying Hyperalignment Contribution
The appendix notes that non-hyperaligned data show a coarser structure, but the specific contribution of hyperalignment to your findings requires more thorough quantification. Please provide a systematic comparison of results with and without hyperalignment, demonstrating that similar (even if weaker) anatomical correspondence exists in native subject space. This would establish that the mesoscale organizational principles you identify are not artifacts of the alignment procedure but reflect genuine neurobiological organization. Consider presenting correlation coefficients or overlap metrics quantifying the similarity of state structures before and after hyperalignment.
(6) Functional Characterization of the Unimodal State
The observation that the brain spends approximately 34% of its time in a "Unimodal State" is presented primarily as a transition period. This is an interesting observation. However, it would be useful to characterize the functional connectivity profile of the unimodal state. Specifically, investigate whether it represents a distinct functional state with its own characteristic connectivity pattern. More detailed analysis would provide a more complete picture of temporal brain dynamics during naturalistic viewing and could yield new perspectives on how the brain reorganizes between stable states.
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