The EMT transcription factor Snai1 maintains myocardial wall integrity by repressing intermediate filament gene expression

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   Version published to 10.7554/elife.66143 on eLife

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   May 19, 2021

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   Reviewer #1:

   Gentile A et al show a novel role of Snai1b in growth regulation of zebrafish myocardial wall. Specifically, authors show that zebrafish lacking Snai1b exhibit cardiac looping defects (~50% penetrance), consistent with previously described morpholino mediated Snai1b knockdown phenotype. Extruding cardiomyocytes away from cardiac lumen, mostly in the atrioventricular canal region were observed in remaining 50% of Snai1b knockout zebrafish. Using RNA-seq, authors identified several dysregulated genes, including enrichment of intermediate filament genes in Snai1b knockout zebrafish. Among these dysregulated genes, authors suggest that increased Desmin expression and its aberrant localization promote cardiomyocyte extrusion in Snai1b knockout zebrafish hearts. Overall, present manuscript describes a novel …

   Author Response:

   Reviewer #1:

   Gentile A et al show a novel role of Snai1b in growth regulation of zebrafish myocardial wall. Specifically, authors show that zebrafish lacking Snai1b exhibit cardiac looping defects (~50% penetrance), consistent with previously described morpholino mediated Snai1b knockdown phenotype. Extruding cardiomyocytes away from cardiac lumen, mostly in the atrioventricular canal region were observed in remaining 50% of Snai1b knockout zebrafish. Using RNA-seq, authors identified several dysregulated genes, including enrichment of intermediate filament genes in Snai1b knockout zebrafish. Among these dysregulated genes, authors suggest that increased Desmin expression and its aberrant localization promote cardiomyocyte extrusion in Snai1b knockout zebrafish hearts. Overall, present manuscript describes a novel phenomenon during cardiac development, hence, it is of interest to developmental biologists.

   1. Snai1 is known to affect cushion formation in atrioventricular canal region. It would be helpful to establish cause and effect relationship for Snai1b in this region. Zebrafish lack global Snai1b expression - so it would be helpful to show if defective cushion promotes cardiomyocyte extrusion in atrioventricular canal region. Tnnt2 morpholino experiments provides some insights, however, it does not rule out role of defective atrioventricular cushion (defective EMT).

   We thank the reviewer for these suggestions. While we agree that this point is interesting, it must be noted that atrioventricular (AV) valve formation in zebrafish starts at ⁓56 hpf, with the collective migration of the valve endothelial cells (Gunawan et al., 2019; Gunawan et al., 2020). Zebrafish heart valves are functional starting at approximately 72 hpf, when they can efficiently close the lumen (Gunawan et al., 2019; Gunawan et al., 2020). Thus, the endothelial-to-mesenchymal transition process in the AV canal takes place after CMs start extruding in snai1b mutants (48 hpf).

   Nevertheless, we examined valve formation in snai1b mutants and observed that the early stages of valve development seem unaffected, and that wild-type like valve leaflets appear by 72 hpf (Figure R1). Together, these data indicate that the CM extrusion defects in snai1b mutants are not a secondary effect of valve dysfunction.

   1. For Figure 2 - additional histology / immunohistology to show extrusion, cohesion, and orientation of cardiomyocytes at a section level (2D) in Snai1b knockout hearts could help to characterize phenotype at a cellular level. It is assumed that all cardiomyocytes lack Snai1b protein (immunostaining would help), however, only few cardiomyocyte show extrusion. Minor point - Cartoon images in figure 2 are somewhat disconnected from immunostaining images.

   We thank the reviewer for these suggestions. While we agree with the point regarding the Snai1b immunostaining, there are no commercially available or published antibodies that detect zebrafish Snai1b, particularly one that differentiates between Snai1a and Snai1b. To better characterize the snai1b mutant phenotype at the cellular level, we have now included quantification of CM apical surface areas and aspect ratios at 52 and 74 hpf. We found that the CMs in snai1b mutants appear smaller and more rounded compared with those in wild- type embryos. We also found a smaller ventricular volume in snai1b mutant hearts, potentially due to the changes in CM shape. These new results are shown in Figure 1 - supplement 5. We also changed the cartoons in Figure 2, as suggested.

   1. It is unclear whether Snai1b knockout hearts exhibit defective contractile phenotype and whether there is a cardiac phenotype in surviving adult zebrafish. It is also unclear whether RNA-seq and SEM from adult zebrafish heart represent embryonic extrusion and intermediate filament defects.

   We thank the reviewer for these comments. However, characterizing the snai1b mutant adult phenotypes is beyond the scope of this manuscript. It is important to clarify that the RNA- seq and SEM experiments were performed in embryonic hearts.

   1. It is unclear why only few cardiomyocytes show extrusion when most of cardiomyocytes, if not all, are overexpressing Desmin gene.

   We agree with the reviewer. As we showed by immunostaining in wild-type hearts (Figure 3I), a subset of CMs – the few extruding wild-type CMs – exhibit Desmin enrichment in their basal domain. We speculate that only this subset of CMs exhibits basal Desmin enrichment because their position within the myocardium exposes them to higher mechanical forces due to increased blood flow and looping morphogenesis, which in turn raises their propensity to extrude. Indeed, as we show in Figure 1 – supplement 1F, most of the CM extrusions in snai1b mutants are observed at the AV canal, where CMs experience the highest level of mechanical forces (Lombardo et al., 2019; Campinho et al., 2020).

   1. Molecular link connecting Snai1b and cardiac filaments genes is not determined.

   We have now used a luciferase assay in HEK293T cells to test the regulation of desmb expression by Snai1b. It was previously shown by ChiP-seq in mouse skeletal myoblasts that Snai1 can bind to the proximal promoter of Desmin (Soleimani et al., 2012). Our in silico analysis uncovered an 800 base pair region upstream of the start codon of zebrafish desmb that exhibits a high degree of similarity (>45%) with the mammalian sequence and is thus a promising proximal promoter for desmb. Furthermore, Kürekçi et al. recently reported that the zebrafish desmb promoter contains putative Snai1b-binding sites (Kayman Kürekçi et al., 2021). We cloned this 800 bp region upstream of a luciferase reporter and co-transfected the resulting plasmid with a plasmid expressing zebrafish Snai1b, which led to a significant decrease of luciferase activity compared with the proximal promoter alone. These data suggest that Snai1b binds to the proximal promoter of desmb and represses its transcription, potentially implicating Snai1b as a direct regulator of desmb expression. This new result is shown in Figure 3 – supplement 1D.

   Reviewer #2:

   An intact myocardium is essential for cardiac function, yet much remains unknown regarding the cell biological mechanisms maintaining this specialized epithelium during embryogenesis. In this manuscript, Gentile and colleagues discover a novel role for the repressive transcription factor Snai1b in supporting myocardial integrity. In the absence of Snai1b, cardiomyocytes exhibit an enrichment of intermediate filament genes, including desmin b. In addition, the authors detect mislocalization of Desmin, along with adherens junction and actomyosin components, to the basal membrane in snai1b mutant cardiomyocytes, and these mutant cells exhibit an increased likelihood of extrusion from the myocardium. Ultimately, the authors put forward a model wherein Snai1b protects cardiomyocytes from extrusion at least in part by regulating the amount and organization of Desmin in the cell, thereby supporting myocardial integrity.

   Overall, the authors highlight an important aspect of epithelial maintenance in an environment that experiences significant biomechanical stress due to cardiac function. By generating a promoter-less allele of snai1b, the authors have created a clean genetic model in which to work. Coupled with beautiful microscopy and transcriptomics, this story has the potential to enlighten both cell biologists and cardiovascular biologists on the underpinnings of myocardial integrity. However, clarifications regarding the overall model would be particularly beneficial for the reader.

   We thank the reviewer for their highly supportive comments.

   1. A clearer discussion of the proposed molecular mechanism for Snai1b function would aid a reader's overall contextualization of this work. At one point, the authors suggest that Snai1b regulates N-cadherin localization to adherens junctions, thereby stabilizing actomyosin tension at cell junctions. Later, it is suggested that Desmin activates the actomyosin contractile network at the basal membrane. It is unclear whether the authors believe that these are separate events or whether they may be coupled, perhaps through Desmin disruption at the lateral membranes, leading to modifications in nearby adherens junctions. A more thorough investigation of the phenotype resulting from desmin b overexpression may clarify this relationship.

   We thank the reviewer for these comments. We have now included Desmin and p-myosin immunostaining of desmb overexpressing CMs. We observed an increased level of Desmin protein in the desmb overexpressing CMs, as well as its basal localization. We also observed increased p-myosin localization basally, as we did in snai1b mutant CMs. N-cadherin immunostaining at the junctions was reduced in desmb overexpressing CMs, as in snai1b mutant CMs. Altogether, these results indicate that myocardial-specific desmb overexpression phenocopies snai1b mutants. We have also included deeper quantitative analysis of the immunostaining, now distinguishing the results between extruding and non- extruding desmb overexpressing CMs. These new results are shown in Figure 4F-I’ and Figure 4 – supplement 2.

   Although both reduced junctional N-cadherin and abnormal basal localization of actomyosin factors are consistently observed in snai1b mutants and in desmb overexpressing embryos, additional tools will need to be developed and used to determine whether they are separate or coupled events.

   1. It appears that extruded cells do not bud off from the myocardium, but rather remain on the apical surface of the existing myocardium. However, it is unclear whether this change in tissue architecture affects cardiac function or the overall morphology of the chamber. A brief discussion of these possibilities would have helped to contextualize the significance of this phenotype.

   We thank the reviewer for this interesting point. We have now included a time-lapse spinning disk movie of wild-type and snai1b mutant hearts from 52 to 70 hpf. At the starting timepoint (t0) in snai1b mutant hearts, we observed extruding CMs that were still embedded within the myocardium. Within 6 hours, we did not observe extruding CMs in the same location as we had at t0, but instead found CMs outside of the myocardial wall and they remained in the pericardial cavity for several hours. These new results suggest that CMs do indeed extrude out of the myocardium in snai1b mutant hearts, and they are shown in Figure 1 – supplement 1I-K and video 1.

   Additionally, we quantified the heart rate, ejection fraction, and fractional shortening at 52 and 74 hpf. At 52 hpf, we did not find significant differences between wild-type and snai1b mutants, but at 74 hpf, the heart rate, ejection fraction, and fractional shortening were significantly lower in snai1b mutants compared to wild types. Furthermore, snai1b mutants exhibited reduced ventricular volume at 52 and 74 hpf. As the reduction in cardiac function occurs after CMs start to extrude, these data indicate that CM extrusion has an impact on the overall morphology of the ventricle and cardiac function. These new results are shown in Figure 1 – supplement 5.

   1. The authors show that cardiomyocyte extrusion is most prevalent near the atrioventricular canal, and they suggest that this regionalized effect is due to the different types of extrinsic factors, like biomechanical forces, that this region experiences. However, it is also possible that regional differences in certain intrinsic factors are involved, such as junctional plasticity, actomyosin activity at the basal membrane, etc. To distinguish between these possibilities, it would have been informative to know whether the extent of N-cadherin/α-18/p-Myosin/Desmin mislocalization varies depending on the regional location of cardiomyocytes within the snai1b mutant heart. For example, do cardiomyocytes near the atrioventricular canal exhibit more extreme effects on N-cadherin/α-18/p-Myosin/Desmin localization than cardiomyocytes in further away portions of the ventricle? Or, do these cells exhibit similar degrees of protein mislocalization, but cells near the atrioventricular canal have a lower threshold for extrusion?

   We thank the reviewer for this interesting point. We hypothesize that CMs closer to the AV canal exhibit more severe effects on N-cadherin/α-catenin epitope α-18/p-myosin/Desmin localization, due to the higher mechanical forces they experience (Lombardo et al., 2019; Campinho et al., 2020). However, our immunostaining procedure for zebrafish embryos requires deyolking to allow access of the tissue to the antibody, which unfortunately leads to the loss of the atrium and the part of the AV canal closest to the atrium; thus, this procedure renders it difficult to perform quantitative analysis of the immunostaining signal throughout the heart.

   Reviewer #3:

   Gentile, A. et al. generated snai1b mutant zebrafish embryos and showed that loss of Snai1b led to two mutant phenotypes in the heart: i) hearts with clear looping defects, ii) hearts without looping defects that displayed abnormal cardiomyocyte (CM) extrusion. The authors focused on the second class of mutants and found that loss of Snai1b led to reduction of N-cadherin at cell junctions and basal accumulation of phosphorylated myosin light chain and the α-18 epitope of α-catenin, indicative of mechanical activation. Bulk RNA-sequencing of isolated hearts revealed an upregulation of intermediate filament (IF) genes in Snai1b mutants, and of particular interest, the authors identified upregulation of the muscle-specific IF gene desmin b. Immunofluorescent imaging revealed that Desmin was not only upregulated in Snai1b mutants, but mis-localized away from cell junctions and accumulated at the basal side of extruding cells along with actomyosin machinery. Accordingly, CM-specific overexpression of Desmin was sufficient to promote cell extrusion.

   The presented work is particularly interesting because it identifies a new role for the Snai1b transcription factor in maintaining proper tissue structure, independent of its typical function in regulating epithelial to mesenchymal transition (EMT). Overall, the experiments were well designed and controlled, and the data is clearly and logically presented. However, some of the findings could be explained by alternative hypotheses and other interesting aspects of the data were left unexplored.

   One hypothesis that was not sufficiently discussed is that loss of Snai1b may prevent cardiomyocytes from undergoing the EMT that is necessary for normal delamination and trabeculation, and thus cells are instead extruded away from the lumen to prevent overcrowding in the developing myocardium. In fact, the authors present evidence that EMT is blocked and acknowledge that extrusion is a known mechanism for preventing overcrowding. It would be interesting to see whether extrusion away from the lumen also occurs if EMT is blocked through other means.

   We thank the reviewer for these interesting questions regarding CM overcrowding, EMT, and CM extrusion. To test the hypothesis that CMs in snai1b mutants are extruding to prevent overcrowding in the developing myocardium, we treated embryos with an ErbB2 inhibitor to reduce CM proliferation (however, ErbB2 also regulates EMT). We did not observe a significant difference in the number of extruding CMs in treated snai1b mutants compared with control (Figure R2), while when we treated wild-type embryos with the ErbB2 inhibitor, we observed an increase in CM extrusion (data not shown). In addition, previous cell transplantation studies (Liu et al., 2010) analysed wild-type hearts with a few erbb2 mutant CMs and did not report CM extrusion. Altogether, these data suggest that increased CM extrusion in snai1b mutants is not caused by increased CM proliferation or defective EMT. However, additional analysis using tools that specifically block CM proliferation versus EMT will be needed to further investigate these interesting questions.

   The authors show that extruding cells do not seem to be dead or dying, and that a small number of CMs do extrude in wild type embryos. This raises the intriguing possibility that some amount of CM extrusion is necessary for normal development and that these cells may give rise to epicardial or other cell types. Live-imaging and lineage-tracing studies would inform whether the extrusion observed in mutant embryos is an enhancement of a normal morphogenetic process or an additional abnormal response to loss of Snai1 function.

   We thank the reviewer for these interesting comments. We have now included a time-lapse spinning disk movie of the snai1b mutant hearts from 52 to 70 hpf, in which we observed CMs outside of the myocardial wall and they remained in the pericardial cavity for several hours (see our rebuttal to Major Point #2 in reviewer 2’s comment).

   To test the hypothesis that CM extrusion is a normal process that gives rise to other cell types outside the myocardial wall, we performed a lineage-tracing experiment in wild-type embryos. We treated Tg(myl7:creERT2);(-3.5ubb:loxP-EGFP-loxP-mCherry) embryos with tamoxifen from 24 to 72 hpf, and imaged the larvae at 96 hpf. We found no switched (EGFP to mCherry) CM-derived cells in the pericardial cavity (Figure R3). From our lineage tracing analysis, we believe that the extruded CMs do not contribute to other cardiac cells. Our time-lapse movies also show that in snai1b mutants, extruded CMs are not attached to and are positionally distant from the heart (Figure 1 – figure supplement 1I-K), thereby indicating that it is unlikely the extruded CMs give rise to epicardial or other cardiovascular cells.

   One particularly interesting observation that was left unexplored was the identification of a second class of Snai1b mutants with defective heart looping. It isn't clear whether these embryos also display enhanced CM extrusion, or if there are other clearly aberrant cell behaviors. Furthermore, it would be very interesting to know whether there is any evidence that the defective looping is due to the same changes in cytoskeletal gene expression and protein organization observed in the class of Snai1b mutants that were detailed throughout the manuscript.

   We thank the reviewer for these comments. We have now examined in more detail CM morphology in unlooped snai1b mutant hearts and have included some quantification in the revised manuscript. We found that the number of extruding CMs is similar in all snai1b mutants regardless of the looping phenotype. These new data are included in Figure 1 – figure supplement 1C-E. It will indeed be interesting to investigate whether changes in cytoskeletal gene and protein expression are also an underlying cause of the cardiac looping phenotype in snai1b mutants.

   The authors suggest that Snai1b regulates Desmin in two ways: 1) overall expression levels, and 2) post-translationally to control its localization at cell junctions. Although the first claim is sufficiently supported, the second claim lacks experimental evidence. An alternative explanation is that overexpression of Desmin in response to loss of Snai1b leads to mislocalization independent of an interaction with Snai1b. This point could be clarified by examining Desmin localization in the desmb overexpression system. In addition, assaying for co-IP of Snai1b and Desmin could demonstrate a direct interaction between the two and better support a role for Snai1 in regulating post-translational localization of Desmin.

   We thank the reviewer for these comments. We have now performed anti-Desmin immunostaining in desmb overexpressing CMs, and found that Desmin is enriched basally. This result suggests that an overabundance of Desmin can lead to its basal enrichment. However, whether Snai1b and Desmin interact at the protein level will need additional tools and analyses, and thus we have removed the corresponding sentence from the manuscript.

   Although the authors convincingly show that Desmin accumulates with other contractile machinery at the basal side of extruding CMs in Snai1b muntants, additional evidence is needed to support a causal link between basal Desmin accumulation and extrusion. For instance, if knockdown or inhibition of Desmin prevents extrusion in the Snai1b mutants, the causal relationship would be much clearer.

   We thank the reviewer for this suggestion. We used a desmb ATG morpholino to knock down desmb in snai1b mutants. Although we used a low concentration of the morpholino (0.5 ng), we surprisingly observed an increased number of extruding CMs in both wild types and snai1b mutants compared with standard control morpholino injections (Figure R4). We hypothesize that the right balance of Desmin expression is needed to preserve myocardial wall integrity; too much or too little of Desmin increases CM extrusions. However, we cannot exclude the possibility that the effects observed are due to off-target effects of the morpholino. Due to these uncertainties, we did not include the desmb morpholino data in the manuscript.

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   Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

   Gentile, A. et al. generated snai1b mutant zebrafish embryos and showed that loss of Snai1b led to two mutant phenotypes in the heart: i) hearts with clear looping defects, ii) hearts without looping defects that displayed abnormal cardiomyocyte (CM) extrusion. The authors focused on the second class of mutants and found that loss of Snai1b led to reduction of N-cadherin at cell junctions and basal accumulation of phosphorylated myosin light chain and the α-18 epitope of α-catenin, indicative of mechanical activation. Bulk RNA-sequencing of isolated hearts revealed an upregulation of intermediate filament (IF) genes in Snai1b mutants, and of particular interest, the authors identified upregulation of the muscle-specific IF gene desmin b. Immunofluorescent imaging revealed that Desmin was not only upregulated …

   Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

   Gentile, A. et al. generated snai1b mutant zebrafish embryos and showed that loss of Snai1b led to two mutant phenotypes in the heart: i) hearts with clear looping defects, ii) hearts without looping defects that displayed abnormal cardiomyocyte (CM) extrusion. The authors focused on the second class of mutants and found that loss of Snai1b led to reduction of N-cadherin at cell junctions and basal accumulation of phosphorylated myosin light chain and the α-18 epitope of α-catenin, indicative of mechanical activation. Bulk RNA-sequencing of isolated hearts revealed an upregulation of intermediate filament (IF) genes in Snai1b mutants, and of particular interest, the authors identified upregulation of the muscle-specific IF gene desmin b. Immunofluorescent imaging revealed that Desmin was not only upregulated in Snai1b mutants, but mis-localized away from cell junctions and accumulated at the basal side of extruding cells along with actomyosin machinery. Accordingly, CM-specific overexpression of Desmin was sufficient to promote cell extrusion.

   The presented work is particularly interesting because it identifies a new role for the Snai1b transcription factor in maintaining proper tissue structure, independent of its typical function in regulating epithelial to mesenchymal transition (EMT). Overall, the experiments were well designed and controlled, and the data is clearly and logically presented. However, some of the findings could be explained by alternative hypotheses and other interesting aspects of the data were left unexplored.

   One hypothesis that was not sufficiently discussed is that loss of Snai1b may prevent cardiomyocytes from undergoing the EMT that is necessary for normal delamination and trabeculation, and thus cells are instead extruded away from the lumen to prevent overcrowding in the developing myocardium. In fact, the authors present evidence that EMT is blocked and acknowledge that extrusion is a known mechanism for preventing overcrowding. It would be interesting to see whether extrusion away from the lumen also occurs if EMT is blocked through other means.

   The authors show that extruding cells do not seem to be dead or dying, and that a small number of CMs do extrude in wild type embryos. This raises the intriguing possibility that some amount of CM extrusion is necessary for normal development and that these cells may give rise to epicardial or other cell types. Live-imaging and lineage-tracing studies would inform whether the extrusion observed in mutant embryos is an enhancement of a normal morphogenetic process or an additional abnormal response to loss of Snai1 function.

   One particularly interesting observation that was left unexplored was the identification of a second class of Snai1b mutants with defective heart looping. It isn't clear whether these embryos also display enhanced CM extrusion, or if there are other clearly aberrant cell behaviors. Furthermore, it would be very interesting to know whether there is any evidence that the defective looping is due to the same changes in cytoskeletal gene expression and protein organization observed in the class of Snai1b mutants that were detailed throughout the manuscript.

   The authors suggest that Snai1b regulates Desmin in two ways: 1) overall expression levels, and 2) post-translationally to control its localization at cell junctions. Although the first claim is sufficiently supported, the second claim lacks experimental evidence. An alternative explanation is that overexpression of Desmin in response to loss of Snai1b leads to mislocalization independent of an interaction with Snai1b. This point could be clarified by examining Desmin localization in the desmb overexpression system. In addition, assaying for co-IP of Snai1b and Desmin could demonstrate a direct interaction between the two and better support a role for Snai1 in regulating post-translational localization of Desmin.

   Although the authors convincingly show that Desmin accumulates with other contractile machinery at the basal side of extruding CMs in Snai1b muntants, additional evidence is needed to support a causal link between basal Desmin accumulation and extrusion. For instance, if knockdown or inhibition of Desmin prevents extrusion in the Snai1b mutants, the causal relationship would be much clearer.

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   Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

   An intact myocardium is essential for cardiac function, yet much remains unknown regarding the cell biological mechanisms maintaining this specialized epithelium during embryogenesis. In this manuscript, Gentile and colleagues discover a novel role for the repressive transcription factor Snai1b in supporting myocardial integrity. In the absence of Snai1b, cardiomyocytes exhibit an enrichment of intermediate filament genes, including desmin b. In addition, the authors detect mislocalization of Desmin, along with adherens junction and actomyosin components, to the basal membrane in snai1b mutant cardiomyocytes, and these mutant cells exhibit an increased likelihood of extrusion from the myocardium. Ultimately, the authors put forward a model wherein Snai1b protects cardiomyocytes from extrusion at least in …

   Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

   An intact myocardium is essential for cardiac function, yet much remains unknown regarding the cell biological mechanisms maintaining this specialized epithelium during embryogenesis. In this manuscript, Gentile and colleagues discover a novel role for the repressive transcription factor Snai1b in supporting myocardial integrity. In the absence of Snai1b, cardiomyocytes exhibit an enrichment of intermediate filament genes, including desmin b. In addition, the authors detect mislocalization of Desmin, along with adherens junction and actomyosin components, to the basal membrane in snai1b mutant cardiomyocytes, and these mutant cells exhibit an increased likelihood of extrusion from the myocardium. Ultimately, the authors put forward a model wherein Snai1b protects cardiomyocytes from extrusion at least in part by regulating the amount and organization of Desmin in the cell, thereby supporting myocardial integrity.

   Overall, the authors highlight an important aspect of epithelial maintenance in an environment that experiences significant biomechanical stress due to cardiac function. By generating a promoter-less allele of snai1b, the authors have created a clean genetic model in which to work. Coupled with beautiful microscopy and transcriptomics, this story has the potential to enlighten both cell biologists and cardiovascular biologists on the underpinnings of myocardial integrity. However, clarifications regarding the overall model would be particularly beneficial for the reader.

   1. A clearer discussion of the proposed molecular mechanism for Snai1b function would aid a reader's overall contextualization of this work. At one point, the authors suggest that Snai1b regulates N-cadherin localization to adherens junctions, thereby stabilizing actomyosin tension at cell junctions. Later, it is suggested that Desmin activates the actomyosin contractile network at the basal membrane. It is unclear whether the authors believe that these are separate events or whether they may be coupled, perhaps through Desmin disruption at the lateral membranes, leading to modifications in nearby adherens junctions. A more thorough investigation of the phenotype resulting from desmin b overexpression may clarify this relationship.

   2. It appears that extruded cells do not bud off from the myocardium, but rather remain on the apical surface of the existing myocardium. However, it is unclear whether this change in tissue architecture affects cardiac function or the overall morphology of the chamber. A brief discussion of these possibilities would have helped to contextualize the significance of this phenotype.

   3. The authors show that cardiomyocyte extrusion is most prevalent near the atrioventricular canal, and they suggest that this regionalized effect is due to the different types of extrinsic factors, like biomechanical forces, that this region experiences. However, it is also possible that regional differences in certain intrinsic factors are involved, such as junctional plasticity, actomyosin activity at the basal membrane, etc. To distinguish between these possibilities, it would have been informative to know whether the extent of N-cadherin/α-18/p-Myosin/Desmin mislocalization varies depending on the regional location of cardiomyocytes within the snai1b mutant heart. For example, do cardiomyocytes near the atrioventricular canal exhibit more extreme effects on N-cadherin/α-18/p-Myosin/Desmin localization than cardiomyocytes in further away portions of the ventricle? Or, do these cells exhibit similar degrees of protein mislocalization, but cells near the atrioventricular canal have a lower threshold for extrusion?

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   Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

   Gentile A et al show a novel role of Snai1b in growth regulation of zebrafish myocardial wall. Specifically, authors show that zebrafish lacking Snai1b exhibit cardiac looping defects (~50% penetrance), consistent with previously described morpholino mediated Snai1b knockdown phenotype. Extruding cardiomyocytes away from cardiac lumen, mostly in the atrioventricular canal region were observed in remaining 50% of Snai1b knockout zebrafish. Using RNA-seq, authors identified several dysregulated genes, including enrichment of intermediate filament genes in Snai1b knockout zebrafish. Among these dysregulated genes, authors suggest that increased Desmin expression and its aberrant localization promote cardiomyocyte extrusion in Snai1b knockout zebrafish hearts. Overall, present manuscript describes a novel …

   Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

   Gentile A et al show a novel role of Snai1b in growth regulation of zebrafish myocardial wall. Specifically, authors show that zebrafish lacking Snai1b exhibit cardiac looping defects (~50% penetrance), consistent with previously described morpholino mediated Snai1b knockdown phenotype. Extruding cardiomyocytes away from cardiac lumen, mostly in the atrioventricular canal region were observed in remaining 50% of Snai1b knockout zebrafish. Using RNA-seq, authors identified several dysregulated genes, including enrichment of intermediate filament genes in Snai1b knockout zebrafish. Among these dysregulated genes, authors suggest that increased Desmin expression and its aberrant localization promote cardiomyocyte extrusion in Snai1b knockout zebrafish hearts. Overall, present manuscript describes a novel phenomenon during cardiac development, hence, it is of interest to developmental biologists.

   Major concerns are:

   1. Snai1 is known to affect cushion formation in atrioventricular canal region. It would be helpful to establish cause and effect relationship for Snai1b in this region. Zebrafish lack global Snai1b expression - so it would be helpful to show if defective cushion promotes cardiomyocyte extrusion in atrioventricular canal region. Tnnt2 morpholino experiments provides some insights, however, it does not rule out role of defective atrioventricular cushion (defective EMT).

   2. For Figure 2 - additional histology / immunohistology to show extrusion, cohesion, and orientation of cardiomyocytes at a section level (2D) in Snai1b knockout hearts could help to characterize phenotype at a cellular level. It is assumed that all cardiomyocytes lack Snai1b protein (immunostaining would help), however, only few cardiomyocyte show extrusion. Minor point - Cartoon images in figure 2 are somewhat disconnected from immunostaining images.

   3. It is unclear whether Snai1b knockout hearts exhibit defective contractile phenotype and whether there is a cardiac phenotype in surviving adult zebrafish. It is also unclear whether RNA-seq and SEM from adult zebrafish heart represent embryonic extrusion and intermediate filament defects.

   4. It is unclear why only few cardiomyocytes show extrusion when most of cardiomyocytes, if not all, are overexpressing Desmin gene.

   5. Molecular link connecting Snai1b and cardiac filaments genes is not determined.

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   Evaluation Summary:

   The authors have highlighted an important aspect of epithelial maintenance in an environment that experiences significant biomechanical stress due to cardiac function. Using novel genetic models, detailed imaging and a thorough transcriptomic assessment, this story has the potential to enlighten both cell biologists and cardiovascular biologists on the underpinnings of myocardial integrity.

   (This preprint has been reviewed by eLife. We include the public reviews from the reviewers here; the authors also receive private feedback with suggested changes to the manuscript. Reviewer #1 and Reviewer #3 agreed to share their name with the authors.)

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